Comments on: Overclocking the Intel E8200 Core 2 Duo ‘Wolfdale’ Processor http://www.utheguru.com/overclocking-an-intel-e8200-core-2-duo-processor-2 Not Your Average Geek Fri, 16 May 2008 10:09:34 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: OCnewbie http://www.utheguru.com/overclocking-an-intel-e8200-core-2-duo-processor-2#comment-1617 OCnewbie Wed, 07 May 2008 15:31:23 +0000 http://www.utheguru.com/overclocking-an-intel-e8200-core-2-duo-processor-2#comment-1617 ok. thank you for the help, ill see if i can get better ram even though im still happy with 3.2GHz it would be nice to have better ram incase i want to go higher than that in the future. right so i have looked around a bit and i have found this http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=4KZK&SearchType=1&SearchTerms=OCZ+Technology+2x1GB+240DIMM+PC2+8500+Reaper&PageMode=3&SearchKey=All&SearchMode=All&NavigationKey=0 its only a little more expensive than what i was going to use before anyway. what do you think? ok. thank you for the help, ill see if i can get better ram even though im still happy with 3.2GHz it would be nice to have better ram incase i want to go higher than that in the future.

right so i have looked around a bit and i have found this

http://www.dabs.com/productview.aspx?Quicklinx=4KZK&SearchType=1&SearchTerms=OCZ+Technology+2×1GB+240DIMM+PC2+8500+Reaper&PageMode=3&SearchKey=All&SearchMode=All&NavigationKey=0

its only a little more expensive than what i was going to use before anyway.

what do you think?

]]> By: theDuck http://www.utheguru.com/overclocking-an-intel-e8200-core-2-duo-processor-2#comment-1616 theDuck Wed, 07 May 2008 04:22:49 +0000 http://www.utheguru.com/overclocking-an-intel-e8200-core-2-duo-processor-2#comment-1616 OCNewbie - if I were you I'd ditch the idea of buying a cpu cooler and buy better RAM instead - as mentioned above, PC8500. That way you won't have to muck around with overclocking the RAM too much (or at all), which can be very tricky for beginners as these gigabyte motherboards tend to inexplicably reset all your changes if the RAM is going to0 quickly. All your going to need to really do is drop the RAM:FSB ratio to around 1:1 or 1.25 to 1, slightly up the CPU voltage (as mentioned in my article, above) and up the CPU clock to whatever it will handle - 400 will get you 3.2GHz and you will find that the stock CPU cooler will handle that no problems whatsoever. With PC6400, and a RAM:FSB ratio of 1:1 you'll get to 3.2GHz without any problems. With PC8400 and a ratio of 1:1 you'll get in excess of 3.6GHz without any problems, with the stock cooler. Unfortunately I can't really offer any more specific advice as motherboards differ. M OCNewbie - if I were you I’d ditch the idea of buying a cpu cooler and buy better RAM instead - as mentioned above, PC8500. That way you won’t have to muck around with overclocking the RAM too much (or at all), which can be very tricky for beginners as these gigabyte motherboards tend to inexplicably reset all your changes if the RAM is going to0 quickly.

All your going to need to really do is drop the RAM:FSB ratio to around 1:1 or 1.25 to 1, slightly up the CPU voltage (as mentioned in my article, above) and up the CPU clock to whatever it will handle - 400 will get you 3.2GHz and you will find that the stock CPU cooler will handle that no problems whatsoever.

With PC6400, and a RAM:FSB ratio of 1:1 you’ll get to 3.2GHz without any problems. With PC8400 and a ratio of 1:1 you’ll get in excess of 3.6GHz without any problems, with the stock cooler.

Unfortunately I can’t really offer any more specific advice as motherboards differ.

M

]]> By: OCnewbie http://www.utheguru.com/overclocking-an-intel-e8200-core-2-duo-processor-2#comment-1615 OCnewbie Tue, 06 May 2008 15:30:23 +0000 http://www.utheguru.com/overclocking-an-intel-e8200-core-2-duo-processor-2#comment-1615 hi nice article! im thinking of building a pc, buying parts as i can afford them, the basic spec will be: Gigabyte GA-N650SLI-DS4L Intel Core 2 Duo E8200 Kingston 2GB DDR2 PC2-6400 and because i am cheap (uk prices are really expensive) i would like to beable to overclock the E8200 even if it is just up to 3.2Ghz i will be happy 3.6Ghz would be amazing though. if i was to overclock the cup to either of these speeds what bios settings would you recomend? keep in mind that i am new to this so if you could keep it as simple as possible the steps i would have to go through i would be very greatful. p.s i know i would need a better cpu cooler so im thinking of getting a Arctic Cooling Freezer 7. i know its only a small overclock but it will help with overall system temp aswell. hi nice article! im thinking of building a pc, buying parts as i can afford them, the basic spec will be:

Gigabyte GA-N650SLI-DS4L
Intel Core 2 Duo E8200
Kingston 2GB DDR2 PC2-6400

and because i am cheap (uk prices are really expensive) i would like to beable to overclock the E8200 even if it is just up to 3.2Ghz i will be happy 3.6Ghz would be amazing though.

if i was to overclock the cup to either of these speeds what bios settings would you recomend? keep in mind that i am new to this so if you could keep it as simple as possible the steps i would have to go through i would be very greatful.

p.s i know i would need a better cpu cooler so im thinking of getting a Arctic Cooling Freezer 7. i know its only a small overclock but it will help with overall system temp aswell.

]]> By: mix http://www.utheguru.com/overclocking-an-intel-e8200-core-2-duo-processor-2#comment-1611 mix Sat, 03 May 2008 13:40:45 +0000 http://www.utheguru.com/overclocking-an-intel-e8200-core-2-duo-processor-2#comment-1611 I changed the thermal compound with the AS5 but the temps stayed the same (39 idle on both cores, 55 one and 46-47 the other one in full load). So now I'm running the E8200 at 3,2Ghz, stock voltage, the memory at 800Mhz, stock timings and stock voltage (Kingmax pc6400) and the temps are 39 idle and 58-59 one core, 51-52 the second core in full load. Running Orthos for 30 minutes now and all is well. Thanks for the help :D By the way which program do you use to monitor the temps? I use Real Temp and I hope it's right cuz Core Temp is giving me about +10deg above real temp. Also Easy Tune 5 says 52deg CPU Temp in full load. Is that a good reading or should I stick to real temp? I changed the thermal compound with the AS5 but the temps stayed the same (39 idle on both cores, 55 one and 46-47 the other one in full load).

So now I’m running the E8200 at 3,2Ghz, stock voltage, the memory at 800Mhz, stock timings and stock voltage (Kingmax pc6400) and the temps are 39 idle and 58-59 one core, 51-52 the second core in full load. Running Orthos for 30 minutes now and all is well. Thanks for the help :D

By the way which program do you use to monitor the temps? I use Real Temp and I hope it’s right cuz Core Temp is giving me about +10deg above real temp. Also Easy Tune 5 says 52deg CPU Temp in full load. Is that a good reading or should I stick to real temp?

]]> By: absy http://www.utheguru.com/overclocking-an-intel-e8200-core-2-duo-processor-2#comment-1610 absy Fri, 02 May 2008 07:58:47 +0000 http://www.utheguru.com/overclocking-an-intel-e8200-core-2-duo-processor-2#comment-1610 E8200 @ 3,4Ghz 1,2V bios, 1,18v in charge (watch in OCCT, hwmonitor etc.). My crucial pc8500 is at stock 1066 5-5-5-15, but for stability, I need to push the fsb and mch voltage +0,05V with the ga-p35-dds4. For those that it can help. temp. core 63° full, ~50° idle. E8200 @ 3,4Ghz 1,2V bios, 1,18v in charge (watch in OCCT, hwmonitor etc.). My crucial pc8500 is at stock 1066 5-5-5-15, but for stability, I need to push the fsb and mch voltage +0,05V with the ga-p35-dds4.
For those that it can help.

temp. core 63° full, ~50° idle.

]]> By: theDuck http://www.utheguru.com/overclocking-an-intel-e8200-core-2-duo-processor-2#comment-1607 theDuck Thu, 01 May 2008 07:35:29 +0000 http://www.utheguru.com/overclocking-an-intel-e8200-core-2-duo-processor-2#comment-1607 @Mix - I'd be suggesting you check out arcticsilver's website and have a look at their instructions for that core - they recommend laying two lines of heatsink, as the two cores are seperated by around 7mm on the die (according to the cut-out view on that website) So.. my most likely interpretation of your 'issues' (although both temps are quite reasonable) would be that one core isn't getting as effective contact with the heatsink as the other. As for overclocking with the stock heatsink - 3.2 should be absolutely well and truly achievable. With the stock heatsink I obtained stable O/C of 3.6+.. your temperatures seem reasonable so go for it. As for using PC6400, depending upon the quality of the RAM you may find that the capabilities of your RAM might restrict your O/C to around that 3.2 level - if you find that your motherboard has a particularly long reboot / post after your overclock and clears all your settings back to default the most likely culprit is the RAM. Cheers, Matt @Mix - I’d be suggesting you check out arcticsilver’s website and have a look at their instructions for that core - they recommend laying two lines of heatsink, as the two cores are seperated by around 7mm on the die (according to the cut-out view on that website)

So.. my most likely interpretation of your ‘issues’ (although both temps are quite reasonable) would be that one core isn’t getting as effective contact with the heatsink as the other.

As for overclocking with the stock heatsink - 3.2 should be absolutely well and truly achievable. With the stock heatsink I obtained stable O/C of 3.6+.. your temperatures seem reasonable so go for it. As for using PC6400, depending upon the quality of the RAM you may find that the capabilities of your RAM might restrict your O/C to around that 3.2 level - if you find that your motherboard has a particularly long reboot / post after your overclock and clears all your settings back to default the most likely culprit is the RAM.

Cheers,

Matt

]]> By: mix http://www.utheguru.com/overclocking-an-intel-e8200-core-2-duo-processor-2#comment-1605 mix Wed, 30 Apr 2008 18:08:59 +0000 http://www.utheguru.com/overclocking-an-intel-e8200-core-2-duo-processor-2#comment-1605 I did a stress test with Orthos on my stock 8200 (stock cooling) and got the following temps: both cores stay at 39C idle, after about a minute of stressing one core sits at 52C and the other slowly starts to climb to about 45-46C. Is this normal to have such a difference in temperature between the cores?Is the second cores temp sensor faulty?Would overclocking to 3.2ghz (400fsb) using 2x1GB Kingmax pc6400 ram be a good idea using the box intel cooler (my mobo is a Gigabyte EP35-DS3R) ? I did a stress test with Orthos on my stock 8200 (stock cooling) and got the following temps: both cores stay at 39C idle, after about a minute of stressing one core sits at 52C and the other slowly starts to climb to about 45-46C.

Is this normal to have such a difference in temperature between the cores?Is the second cores temp sensor faulty?Would overclocking to 3.2ghz (400fsb) using 2×1GB Kingmax pc6400 ram be a good idea using the box intel cooler (my mobo is a Gigabyte EP35-DS3R) ?

]]> By: theDuck http://www.utheguru.com/overclocking-an-intel-e8200-core-2-duo-processor-2#comment-1598 theDuck Sat, 26 Apr 2008 20:45:52 +0000 http://www.utheguru.com/overclocking-an-intel-e8200-core-2-duo-processor-2#comment-1598 Thanks Mark - small world - I came across your site too a couple months back. Cheers, M Thanks Mark - small world - I came across your site too a couple months back.

Cheers,

M

]]> By: Cogman http://www.utheguru.com/overclocking-an-intel-e8200-core-2-duo-processor-2#comment-1597 Cogman Sat, 26 Apr 2008 13:27:38 +0000 http://www.utheguru.com/overclocking-an-intel-e8200-core-2-duo-processor-2#comment-1597 Hey, just wanted to say a big thank you for your article. I was desperate for a new processor (as Visual Studio compiling time is driving me crazy!) and I was looking at either the e8200 or the q9300, but after reading about how easily the e8200 overclocked I went straight out and bought one. I got 3.6Ghz from 450x8 with stock voltages. It was so easy and heat is at 40/60. Everything seems stable no matter what I throw at it, Orthos or Prime95. I'm running super pi in 12.9 seconds, so VERY impressed, beating my old e4300 by 20 seconds. I had so much trouble overclocking my old e4300 at all, so this thing has made my day. Thanks again Hey, just wanted to say a big thank you for your article. I was desperate for a new processor (as Visual Studio compiling time is driving me crazy!) and I was looking at either the e8200 or the q9300, but after reading about how easily the e8200 overclocked I went straight out and bought one.

I got 3.6Ghz from 450×8 with stock voltages. It was so easy and heat is at 40/60. Everything seems stable no matter what I throw at it, Orthos or Prime95. I’m running super pi in 12.9 seconds, so VERY impressed, beating my old e4300 by 20 seconds. I had so much trouble overclocking my old e4300 at all, so this thing has made my day.

Thanks again

]]> By: Phil http://www.utheguru.com/overclocking-an-intel-e8200-core-2-duo-processor-2#comment-1592 Phil Sun, 20 Apr 2008 07:53:06 +0000 http://www.utheguru.com/overclocking-an-intel-e8200-core-2-duo-processor-2#comment-1592 @Starbuck Mate, the current version of CoreTemp assumes a value incorrectly that makes it report all temps for the e8x00 series cpus incorrectly... What you want is realtemp, which as I understand it estimates said value a little closer to the mark, and thus reports the temperatures more accurately. http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2809778 @Starbuck

Mate, the current version of CoreTemp assumes a value incorrectly that makes it report all temps for the e8×00 series cpus incorrectly…

What you want is realtemp, which as I understand it estimates said value a little closer to the mark, and thus reports the temperatures more accurately.

http://www.xtremesystems.org/forums/showthread.php?p=2809778

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